Sma' Talk Wi' T

Current world events, politics, news, history, culture, trivia, religion, and the quirky

Why Do Conservatives Support Scott Brown?

with 14 comments

Sarah Palin recently responded to an interview question by saying that she would have endorsed Scott Brown if she had been asked to. How could someone who has such strong, Christian, anti-abortion views as Palin, endorse a candidate who is pro-abortion? How can conservatives be so enthusiastic in support of someone who is so much in favor of the kind of state intervention in the economy that Massachusetts has adopted in its “universal healthcare” program? Isn’t this rank political expediency, a repudiation of core beliefs for short term political advantage? Absolutely not.

Palin, Rush Limbaugh and other true conservatives are able to support Scott Brown because a true conservative is an idealist, but also a pragmatist. Scott Brown was by far the more conservative candidate in this election. Whatever Brown may think about state intervention is the economy, he clearly wants to keep the federal government out of it. Whatever Brown may think about the “right” to abortion, he favors parental notification, is against partial birth abortion and is pro-traditional marriage.

More to the point, as a U.S. Senator, Brown will be in a position to vote in support of his conservative positions, while those on which he is more liberal will simply not be at issue. For example, he will be able to vote against Obamacare, in support of enhanced interrogation, and in favor of reducing federal taxes. But he will not be voting on the legality of abortion in general, or on state regulation of healthcare. Thus, while his views may be a mix of liberal and conservative, the practical fact is that, on the issues he will actually be voting on, he appears to be a reliable conservative.

We conservatives do believe in a big tent, so long as those we invite in are not in a position to kick out the tent poles.

Advertisements

Written by GaryM

January 18, 2010 at 4:24 pm

14 Responses

Subscribe to comments with RSS.

  1. Brown cannot be considered a true conservative as he is not in lock-step with two burning conservative issues: abortion and gay marriage. The seat he took has been held by a Democrat since 1952, Kennedys. MA voters are very loyal to Kennedys. Had a Kennedy run, s/he would have won. That’s MA politics. Brown may wear the GOP tag, but he is in fact, a RINO. Additionally, you cannot avoid the fact that Coakley is not popular in MA, and Brown was indeed the better candidate; he deserved to win. He has vowed to kill the Bill, and maybe it should be killed. He voted for healthcare in MA, but now sees its effects. He is not anti-healthcare reform, he just doesn’t like this Bill. Many people don’t. I don’t think this was anti-Obama or anti-Democrat as much as it was “the better candidate won”. Coupled with the fact that this was a special election, and Brown won’t be seated long, I wouldn’t throw a party just yet. The Brown/Palin/Rush comparison completely eludes me. Again, Brown is a RINO.

    Alexandra

    January 24, 2010 at 11:39 pm

  2. While I agree with your comments about Scott Brown I do have a question. You use Palin and Rush as examples of true conservatives. I am wondering why not use someone like Newt Gingrich and Palin as examples of true conservatives? Both Palin and Newt have held political office. They seem to have more in common with Scott Brown as a true conservative than someone who has never held political office and talks to American over the radio. Scott Brown seems to be in a different league all together than Rush. In my opinion , Brown might even resent the implication he has a whole lot in commen with someone who lacks such political experience. Brown has many attributes. Brown in my opinion has class. He and Rush are just worlds apart.

    Jennifer

    January 24, 2010 at 11:39 pm

    • Newt is not a conservative. He believes in compromise and doing whatever it takes. While I respect his knowledge and his intentions, he’s not as conservative like Palin.
      https://smalltalkwitht.wordpress.com/2008/04/18/freak-exchange-of-nature/

      I don’t think Scott Brown is a RINO. Brown believes in lower taxes, less government, and a strong defense. Not aligning himself strictly with Republicans was smart. There’s not too many middle class Republicans that think the GOP has been true to their values.

      Meanwhile if Brown doesn’t stick to conservative values or to his campaign promises, he will be a one term Massachusetts senator.

      The era of career politicians is over!

      smalltalkwitht

      January 24, 2010 at 11:47 pm

      • With all due respect, you say that Brown is a true conservative, then you says he is smart for not aligning himself with strictly with Republicans. I find these statements contradictory. Also, this election was not for a full term, but only the remainder of Kennedy’s term; therefore, it is unknown if he will even be given the chance to be a one term Senator, as that election has not been held yet. Conventional Wisdom has it that if Ed Markey decides to run in 2012, Brown will not win. Markey is wildly popular in MA. But of course, that remains to be seen.

        Alexandra

        January 25, 2010 at 12:03 am

    • For starters, I wrote the above post, not T, who is just gracious enough to let me use her blog to occasionally vent. Second, I get a real kick out of those who would die if they were called a conservative, trying to define conservatism. Letting an “independent” or a liberal define conservatism is like letting an atheist define Christianity, blind hostility impairs the judgment. By the way, I have never run for political office, nor will I, but I am a “true” conservative, and take it from me: Newt isn’t; Rush and Palin are; and it is simply not possible to get through to a “moderate” or liberal what the difference is.

      mercutio56

      January 25, 2010 at 4:09 pm

  3. You find the statements contradictory because you’re not conservative or a Republican. Republicans (including Pres Bush) acted like Democrats the last four years of Bush’s term. It’s why the GOP lost their majority in 2006. RINO’s will be voted out of office in 2010.

    I’m grateful that Brown will be in office until 2012. He will fight against the outrageous 2 trillion $$ debt that Obama and Democrats want to force on the middle class, he will rally against giving enemy combatants citizenship rights. Right now that’s what is needed. Get back with us in 2012 on the other things.

    smalltalkwitht

    January 25, 2010 at 12:12 am

    • Actually, those statements aren’t the only ones I find contradictory. Your original article calls Brown “a true conservative”, then goes on to say “his views may be a mix of liberal and conservative”. How can one be a “true conservative” when they are a “mix of liberal and conservative”? I have not stated my political affiliations, so that is mere conjecture on your part, just like the many things you state as fact in your article. You even fail to realize he was not elected for a full term. No need to be rude; but you don’t seem to have done your homework and appear unable to make a cohesive argument, and become very defensive when this is brought to your attention. I see many other holes in your theories, but I really don’t feel free to discuss them here for fear of more hostility, when this could have just been an amicable exchange of ideas. We agree on one thing however; the better candidate won.

      Alexandra

      January 25, 2010 at 12:28 am

      • You’re also assuming I wrote the article and that I did not know that Brown was filling Ted Kennedy’s seat for less than a full term. Wrong on both accounts as well. Conservatives believe in small government, low taxes, strong defense. Brown is not a RINO.

        As with most liberals – you see hostility where there is none.

        Thanks for stopping by.

        smalltalkwitht

        January 25, 2010 at 12:33 am

      • First, the post (which again I wrote, not T, see above) does not claim that Scott Brown is “a true conservative.” The first paragraph sets forth two of Brown’s decidedly liberal positions. The whole point of the post is that conservatives in the Republican Party are willing to embrace those with mixed liberal and conservative views, under certain circumstances. Also, Scott Brown is not a RINO because a RINO is one who claims to be conservative to be elected and then governs based on his/her liberal beliefs. Brown has been quite honest about his positions on abortion and healthcare. He is a conservative on some issues, wrong on others, but overall much more conservative than Coakley, and therefore supported by true conservatives.

        mercutio56

        January 25, 2010 at 4:26 pm

    • Actually, you stated in a response “Meanwhile if Brown doesn’t stick to conservative values or to his campaign promises, he will be a one term Massachusetts senator.”

      You said one term senator. Do you not proofread articles posted to your own blog, or why not let the author defend his work?

      Alexandra

      January 25, 2010 at 12:37 am

      • It’s eleven o’ clock… semantics takes a break. One term/one time. He’s Senator until 2012. If he doesn’t keep his campaign promises, he will be a one term/one time Senator. That’s it in a nutshell.

        I can comment on any comments posted to my blog. That’s how blogs work. I’m sure the author will have something to say as well.

        smalltalkwitht

        January 25, 2010 at 12:50 am

  4. Well said Mercutio! Exactly the case. We know Scott Brown’s positions very well.

    smalltalkwitht

    February 8, 2010 at 7:32 pm

  5. Oh my. If this post made any less sense….

    You rhetorically ask:
    “Isn’t this rank political expediency, a repudiation of core beliefs for short term political advantage?”

    Actually yes, that’s exactly what it is if “true” conservatives are supposed to be supporting only True conservatives. What conservatives are doing by applauding Brown is compromising, which is all good and fine, but just come out and admit it, don’t try and triangulate some kind of twisted logic about it. There’s another word for that — rationalization.

    It’s terribly inconvenient to see the world as black and white, because as anyone who is over 15 years old knows, somethings are difficult and there’s not always a clear path to follow when faced with a decision. Options need to be weighed before an intelligent step is taken.

    Most Americans who are out there working hard don’t have time to see the world where everything has a liberal vs. conservative label, if people like you spent less time worrying about labels and instead working to do the best for your family, your community and your country, this great Nation would better refocus it’s energies from arguing to getting things done.

    One last point:

    Bush and the GOP pre-2008 didn’t “act like democrats” as someone stated, they acted like politicians who have power and abused it — and none of this teaparty stuff was even a thought during the 8 years he was in office. That is an important distinction that Conservatives are having a difficult if not impossible time understanding. If Conservatives truly believed what they are currently shouting they’d have been organizing anti-government rallies since 2003. But they didn’t. This proves nothing more than the current Conservative leadership is full of power-hungry hacks that cling to idealogy only when they are in the opposition.

    It’s shameful. And as the Teaparties get more and more co-opted by the GOP it gets even more shameful.

    Real America

    February 9, 2010 at 9:22 pm

  6. HAHA. How are you feeling about your boy Scott Brown today? Told you he was a RINO! Do you still think he is a “reliable conservative”?

    And to Real America, great response!

    And “T”, I don’t see Brown raging against the debt as you so erroneously predicted. Don’t worry your little head, dear, I don’t expect you for form a cohesive response- big, bad Mercutio will come and save you from your own lack of intellect once again.

    Alexandra

    February 23, 2010 at 8:38 pm


Leave a Reply

Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in:

WordPress.com Logo

You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Log Out / Change )

Twitter picture

You are commenting using your Twitter account. Log Out / Change )

Facebook photo

You are commenting using your Facebook account. Log Out / Change )

Google+ photo

You are commenting using your Google+ account. Log Out / Change )

Connecting to %s

%d bloggers like this: