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McCain Presidential, Obama Philosopher In Training

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Tonight’s debate showed the difference between Obama being a ivory tower philosopher and John McCain being a leader who understands the issues of the world and is not afraid to lead by example.

John McCain and Barack Obama appeared with Pastor Rick Warren at the Saddleback Church tonight in a forum. Warren, fourth generation Baptist minister and author of The Purpose Driven Life asked each presidential candidate the same questions one at a time so that listener could discern the wide discrepancies of political beliefs and agendas.

The format agreed to by both parties was that it would non confrontational, and open to all media. The audience was mainly Saddleback’s evangelical congregation and other Christians, but there were liberals and independents as well.

The first question was “Who are you going to listen to?” Obama stated his wife, Michelle – because of her honesty – get up in your face – attitude. I would call Michelle’s attitude mean and angry. He also mentioned his grandmother, and Democrat Sam Nunn, and Republican Dick Luger on foreign policy. Safe picks. And he would listen to Ted Kennedy on domestic policy. Okay is Ted Kennedy going to be giving any advice in the future? Obama said that he would have a table where a lot of different view points are available and any blind spots or predispositions are challenged. How about a table with conservatives, and oh yeah, some Republicans?

Warren asked Obama “Where he went against his party and did the right thing for the Country?” Obama made a huge gaffe by responding that he joined McCain in the ethics bill during his first years as a new Senator. The reality is that McCain slammed Obama for playing partisan politics and siding with Democrats against McCain. Mr. Obama, don’t you remember this letter that McCain sent you regarding your flip-flop?

Dear Senator Obama:

I would like to apologize to you for assuming that your private assurances to me regarding your desire to cooperate in our efforts to negotiate bipartisan lobbying reform legislation were sincere. When you approached me and insisted that despite your leadership’s preference to use the issue to gain a political advantage in the 2006 elections, you were personally committed to achieving a result that would reflect credit on the entire Senate and offer the country a better example of political leadership, I concluded your professed concern for the institution and the public interest was genuine and admirable. Thank you for disabusing me of such notions with your letter to me dated February 2, 2006, which explained your decision to withdraw from our bipartisan discussions. I’m embarrassed to admit that after all these years in politics I failed to interpret your previous assurances as typical rhetorical gloss routinely used in politics to make self-interested partisan posturing appear more noble. Again, sorry for the confusion, but please be assured I won’t make the same mistake again. Read Senator McCain’s entire letter to Senator Obama.

CBS Video

Most Gutwrenching decision? Gutwrenching? Obama’s statement that his decision on Iraq shows that Obama does not have the stomach for making critical military moves. McCain on the other hand clearly had the upperhand with the gutwrenching decision to stay in a Vietnamese internment prison.

Barack Obama, refreshed from a week in the sun and surf appeared more relaxed and more academic philosopher than president.

Obama talking about his faith showed that he knows “the words” but he didn’t talk about Rev Jeremiah Wright or Father Pflegler or how he lived his life through his religion.

And if he believes in equal rights for all humans… what about babies????? Obama never answered Rick Warren’s question of when does a baby have human rights …

Question to both candidates? 40 million abortions since Roe v Wade – At what point does a baby get human rights in your view ? (The question is very important, reread the question again: At what point does a baby get human rights?)

Obama’s response?

Well, uh I think that whether you’re looking at it from a theological perspective or a scientific perspective , answering that question with specificity is above my pay grade. (T. ~ What a flippant retort) But but but uh uh let let let me speak a little more generally about the issue of abortion because this is something obviously the country wrestles with. One thing that I’m absolutely convinced of is that there is a moral and ethical element to this issue. And so that I think anyone who tries to deny the moral difficulties and gravity of this abortion issue, I think is not paying attention, so so so that would be point #1. But Point #2 I am pro-choice, I believe in Roe Vs Wade and I come to that conclusion not because I’m pro-abortion, but because ultimately I don’t think women make these decisions casually. I think, they wrestle with these things in profound ways. In consultation with their pastors, or their spouses, or their doctors or their family members. Um… So for me the goal right now should be, and this is where I think we can find common ground, and by the way I’ve now inserted this in the Democratic party platform is ‘how do we reduce the number of abortions?’ Because the fact is that although we have had a president who has opposed to abortion over the last eight years, abortions have not gone down and that is something that I think we have to ask…

Did you see (or hear in my case) Obama’s response to when does a baby have human rights? Hmmm… neither did I and I watched it five times.

Obama was liberally and deceptively vague in his response and actually incorrect in answering the abortion question when he said that abortion had not gone down during this president’s (Blame Bush Syndrome) administration. The Guttmacher Institute states that this country has the lowest abortion rates since 1974.

McCain’s immediate response? At the moment of conception!

Rick Warren follow up to Obama because Obama didn’t answer the previous abortion question: Have you ever voted to limit or reduce abortions?

Obama’s response again was all over the place.

Well, the… I am in favor for example, of limits on late term abortions, if there is an exception for the mother’s health. Now from the perspective of those who uh are uh pro life, I think that they would consider that inadequate. And I respect their views. I mean one of the things that I’ve always said is on this particular issue, if you believe that life begins at conception, then uh you are insistant, then I can’t argue with you on that.

At least Obama respects conservatives.

What was their greatest moral issue? Obama’s answer included doing God’s work.

Mr. Obama, is protecting abortion doing God’s work? You quoted the Bible, Matthew 25:40 “Whatever you do for the least of my brothers you do for me.” Killing innocent babies is doing God’s work?

Obama’s all talk – McCain showed that he actually lives what he preaches as much as he has been “a maverick Pain in the Ass” politically over the last 20 years.

McCain was inspiring and unapologetic for the United States as the greatest country in the world whereas Obama again targeted the United States as having evil on our streets.

I was very pleased with John McCain’s commitment to appointing conservative Supreme Court and federal judges who will not legislate from the bench. His response of the SCOTUS judge that he would not have appointed, McCain named the liberals, Ginsberg, Souter, Stephens gave conservatives reassurance and probably a better night sleep tonight.

John McCain related poignant life experiences that backed up his past political decisions, his capture in Vietnam, and explaining why he voted against sending troops over to the Middle East, a decision that proved prescient when military barracks were later bombed and hundreds of soldiers were killed.

Tonight we saw a vibrant John McCain, looking very healthy, excited, committed, and spot on with every conservative issue.

John McCain showed that he would do what was best for our country and would keep partisan politics and meaness out of governing. I was gratefully relieved to watch McCain’s answers and appearance. It will help reinforce to millions of conservatives that they can vote for McCain. McCain has integrity and character and experience. Barack Obama’s appearance showed us what it will be like to have four years of government of the “World According To Snoopy.”


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  1. I had a friend once who would answer questions in the same manner as Obama. No cue cards, nothing preplanned, she stumbled and fumbled over her words.She was more concerned about what it was that**I**wanted to hear. In trying to keep me as her friend, she jumped around the truth, never letting her true feelings be known. After a while, I JUST wanted to know “yes or no”, plain and clear. She was unable to do it. I left her. Michelle Obama, in her attempt to say it like it so opposite of her husband, that she cares not about how abrasive she comes across. She should read, “How to win friends and influence people.” She reminds me, greatly, of The Apprentice contestant, Amarosa.


    August 17, 2008 at 10:06 am

  2. I did watch enough of Obama without wanting to bother.The guy’sa zero.


    August 17, 2008 at 11:21 am

  3. Senator Fred Thompson said it best: “…why give a kid with barely a learner’s permit the keys to the family car?”


    August 17, 2008 at 12:23 pm

  4. t,,,great observations ,,as usual..obama is said to have 11% more evangelical support than other liberals had..i can buy that..he is a smooth cain still has 67& of hope is when obama is debating ,,away from the telepromtor,his dancing and avoiding will come out.


    August 17, 2008 at 3:46 pm

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